t5 tq capacity.

['97-2.3L-ranger]

i've herd its been proven stock 5speed ranger trans will hold alot of torq. what is the capcity of this t5 out of a 88 mustang 2.3. why on ebay are people asking if the t5 came off a 8cy or a 6 or a 4. i thought they were all the same????

[speedaddict]

All i can think of being different is maybe the tailhousing. That or their just retarded

[fordnut71]

1st gear on a 4cyl t-5 is 3.25 as to a v8 is 2.95

[speedaddict]

Thats really good to know, Thanks I'll have to remeber that.

['97-2.3L-ranger]

1st gear on a 4cyl t-5 is 3.25 as to a v8 is 2.95

is that it? what is the torq limits i've heard its like 330ftlbs but i cants see that being right they make all those large stage clutches..

[AJ_Fritz]

torque has to do with the cluster gears strength. 4cyl are about 225 while the v8 is about 305. ive got a list ill post up but have to do it after work.

here it is in pdf format. a little easier to read.

[AJ_Fritz]

look above for PDF.

[rangergt]

Good info AJ. The lower the gearing (high numerically) the lower the torque capacity (this is generally true for most transmissions). The info AJ posted shows this. Mustang guys have been exceeding the torque capacity of the t5 for years. Some with success some not so much. I know people who blew up t5's with a stock 5.0 mustang. I myself had a 3.35 first gear t5 pro shifted by liberty that I drove on the street and had over 200 passes power shifting on the drag strip with when I had the 351 in my truck and it was an easy 400 ftlb of torque. Never had a single issue with that transmission. So it also has a lot to do with the wing nut behind the wheel. Get yourself a V8 t5 and you should be good.

['97-2.3L-ranger]

very good info. i've herd about this g-force kit to upgrade a t5 to handel 500lbs torq. unless i could find a buyer for my t5 i guess thats my only option

[fordnut71]

Get yourself a V8 t5 and you should be good.

back in the day we would take out the v8 t5 for the 4cyl t5. an we never had a problem with them breaking.

[nagelandy55]

Nothing wrong with the stock transmission in the ranger. I've been running mine for some time now, its got 275000km's on it with no problems. Yes the synchro's are getting tired but that should be expected.
I really haven't heard too much about tranny's going in 2.3T's ....... other than Jess' i can't think of any.

[AJ_Fritz]

sometimes its not about how strong the trany is. the t-5 is superior to the the ranger's in every way. there is no comparing the 2. if you have a t-5 you will know what i am talking about.

[nagelandy55]

sometimes its not about how strong the trany is. the t-5 is superior to the the ranger's in every way. there is no comparing the 2. if you have a t-5 you will know what i am talking about.

I realize the T5 is better, i just wanted to point out that the stock transmission is more than capable of handling a turbo.

[speedaddict]

With the t-5, shorter shifts, better gearing, handle more power, and alot easier to find parts. Just my 2 pennies

[gnarlycharlie4u]

i've herd its been proven stock 5speed ranger trans will hold alot of torq. what is the capcity of this t5 out of a 88 mustang 2.3. why on ebay are people asking if the t5 came off a 8cy or a 6 or a 4. i thought they were all the same????

240
and nope. (http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/T5ID.htm)

[jfive]

Can't use that for a referance. There are many using it with twice that amount and not breaking. Thats probubly just what the warranty on it is rated for. those numbers are at the stock levels. a 302 is like 300 ft lbs of torque and it says max is 305 thats just rediculous.

[BogusSVO]

the piolit bearing nub is larger on the T5 for a v8 than that of the 2.3 so that is an issue to be adressed too..

[jfive]

just have to drill out the hole on the flywheel to fit a V8 bearing right. Same issue with a V8 C4 and the nose on the torque converter. have to get a 2.3 converter or machine the crank to clear.

[gnarlycharlie4u]

Can't use that for a referance. There are many using it with twice that amount and not breaking. Thats probubly just what the warranty on it is rated for. those numbers are at the stock levels. a 302 is like 300 ft lbs of torque and it says max is 305 thats just rediculous.

yea that's just what it's rated for. not the max amount it can handle.

that being said... the max amount depends on a lot of things: age, proper care, miles of use/abuse, etc...

[gnarlycharlie4u]

just have to drill out the hole on the flywheel to fit a V8 bearing right. Same issue with a V8 C4 and the nose on the torque converter. have to get a 2.3 converter or machine the crank to clear.

what about the length differences on the input shaft?
7.41 on the 2.3L
7.18 on the 5L
and 7.85 on the 94-95 5L

[jfive]

I would call stinger or canfield since they sell the adaptor plates. They are familar with the 5.0 transmissions on the 2.3s

[BogusSVO]

just have to drill out the hole on the flywheel to fit a V8 bearing right. Same issue with a V8 C4 and the nose on the torque converter. have to get a 2.3 converter or machine the crank to clear.

no, not the flywheel, (you must be a reformed honda boi.. lol) the pilot bearing is in the crank..

so you would have to index and lathe out to size
the V8 nub will fit into the 2.3 crank, but there will be no bearing , or you may be able to make a bushing with appox .0795 wall thickness

you can jab the 2.3 T5 behind a 5.0 with the use of a bearing 203 which is a doubled seald alt bearing

[jfive]

There is a way and i think even cammer know, cause thats what he is doing. I have never owned a honda or considered being a honda person. Only foreign car i have owned was my 98 vw jetta 2.0. I have owned mostly fords and a few gm vehicles.

[BogusSVO]

I am sure cammer has a way figured out.. but OP was looking for a low buck bolt in

[fordnut71]

http://www.ndperformance.com/projects/86svo-nd/page2.html
forget the t5 now this is a tranny

[jfive]

This is a good build to read. Thanks for the link.

[flyin]

another difference is the input shaft has a different tip that goes into the pilot bearing from 4cyl to v8

[4bangeranger]

i put the t 5 from a tc in mine just had to move the trans mount. same piolt bearing. i think all you have to do for the v8 is a diffrent bearing they sell them on e bay for like ten bucks but i never converted to v8 yet.

[96lowslow]

My stock ranger 5spd has held up to much more abuse than my brand new 93 cobra t-5 trans did! The stock ranger trans is tough as hell!

[nagelandy55]

My stock ranger 5spd has held up to much more abuse than my brand new 93 cobra t-5 trans did! The stock ranger trans is tough as hell!

I'll second that. These M50D trannies take quite a bit of abuse.

[srt_hubcap]

i ran a T-9 trans in my old 92 ranger , it held up to the n/a 2.3 and i kicked the clutch like a mad man , as for the M50d , i just had to replace one in my 00 explorer sport .
never hook 3rd in an explorer , i lost 3rd 4th and rev . got a rebuilt one at Hi-Gear in Memphis Tn for $800 . back to the topic , the T-5 is just a better built trans than the m50d or the T-9 { i think }

[96lowslow]

depends what t-5 you buy, a regular T-5 is not as strong as an M5-OD INMO

[jfive]

Both are put behind V8s, so they are both suppose to be decent. Im gonna put my m50d to the test.

[96lowslow]

I bought an upgraded 93 cobra trans for my mostly stock 88 mustang gt, It had the larger pinion bearing and the carbon fiber synchros, it lasted a couple thousand miles. My M5-Od is still going after 175,000 miles of hard non stop abuse, New jersey driving! And its holding up well with my posi rear and 255's on the rear wheels and the turbo engine, I think I'm sticking with this trans in the Ranger, It shifts really well with the hurst shifter and takes all the abuse I throw at it!