Remote turbo? D-tec 2.3

[Helgaiden]

My little brother just got an 06 Ranger 2.3 4cyl. 63k miles in pretty much immaculate condition. My dad won it for him at an auction for $5200 without even realizing what engine was in it (would have preferred a 4.0 or even the 3.0 but whatever). He wants to do a little bit of what i did to my s10 2.2 (underdrive pulleys, intake, e-fan, exhaust, header, etc). Anyways, something that always ran through my head was a remote turbo setup like the sytsems STS offers. Im not too familiar with these 2.3s but from my research, they have a pretty high compression ratio. Would a small turbo (for fast spooling) running 5-8 (maybe 10) pounds of boost on a remote system give some good power? Not looking for alot, maybe like 50 more ponies just to get it to move around good and maybe haul stuff better here and there. I know the Lima blocks are popular for turboing but know nothing of the d-tecs. Lets say parts get scrounged together and my brother spends time at a muffler shop to have the tubing custom bent and stuff and the turbo and other expensive parts maybe re-used from another car or bought used or something...what would be a feasible estimate and would it even be possible? Can this engine take it? Would the ECU need major re-tuning? Again, not looking for crazy high boost so im not sure if that affects how badly the ECU would need a custom burnt chip or anything. Thanks for any help!

[Skyy_4life]

well on those stock internals, i wouldnt go too far over 5-7psi. you will need tuning, which can be done easily from SCT tuner chips. but the main thing you would need to worry about is a oil system, you can buy a pump and do a stand alone oil system, or find a way of runing oil to it, and then getting oil back to the engine.

theres alot more too it then just slapping a turbo on.

SCT chips for that year can be found on this site along with just about everything else you will need.


but if you change your mind and wanna go big (or go home) then you can also find links to the rods, pistons, and other misc items such as fuel pump, injectors, bigger maf, things like that.

and welcome to the site also. :cheers2:

[jfive]

I have an extra turbo, that can be setup as a remote turbo. It basicly has a flange welded to go onto the exhause after the header, and then the turbo has a bracket for mounting it to the frame or what ever. Since there aren't alot of options for the newer motors, I think this is the perfect setup. Mine would spool super fast, and is good up to 15 psi. I will post some pictures, so you have an idea what to look for, but this is the route I would go for a small power build, rather than spending a ton of money looking for custom manifolds, and stuff. Not sure but with this setup, you probubly want to do a blow thru maf setup.

[Helgaiden]

sounds pretty good, jfive. Is it a relatively small turbo? But yeah not lookin to go big. Would 5-7psi be hard on the d-tec internals to the point where its recommended to upgrade them or can they handle the turbo at that low of PSI for the rest of their lifetime? From what ive read it sounds like its a pretty strong engine. As for the oil system, yeah i think it'll need scavenge pumps or whatever they're called. Essentially ill try to disect how the STS system is and copy it because i know their remote systems come with the oil pumps, lines, all that. Would the turbo mount before or after the cat? What is a blow through MAF setup? The stock MAF is no good for forced induction at low PSI i take it? A setup like this would be fine with stock sensors, injectors, etc? Sorry for all the questions just want to learn as much as I can so i can help my brother to the best of my ability when he wants to do this.

[jfive]

I think 7 to 8 psi would be fine on the stock internals, as long as you have the tunning down. The turbo I have is a .60 a/r rotomaster, that I got from a guy that had it on an old chevy luv 4cly. I believe they are suppose to be one of the best turbos made at the time. They are part of the honeywell corp. Which I believe is what garrett is part of also. It was kinda a cool setup the way he had it. I saved it from sitting on a shelf collecting dust. had it inspected by two diesel mechanics and they say its good to go. I plan on using it on a future daily driver myself. As far as the lines go, I think that having it in the engine compartment would allow you to have it up high for the oil return to work. I do wonder about this, cause I have seen a setup a LS1 guy i know has that has it just under his electric fan on his radiator, and this is two low for the oil to return I would think, but then again I need to ask him next time I see him. I would upgrade maf to a 4.0 one, and i guess if you had it up front, you could do a draw thru. I'll get off my butt and get a picture up soon. with in a few hrs at least.

[Helgaiden]

isnt the stock compression ratio a little high for forced induction?

[jfive]

Here are some pics as I said I would do. These are just for referance. I don't think so. Thats another reason to have low boost. If you have an intercooler, I imagine you'd be fine on 89 or 91 octane. Is your head aluminum or cast iron, cause with aluminum I think you are super safe. http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/jfive_5/0801101520a.jpg http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/jfive_5/0801101520.jpg http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/jfive_5/0801101519.jpg

[Helgaiden]

from wiki:
"The Duratec 23 is a 2.3 L (140 CID; 2261 cc)[3]. Bore is 3.44 inches (87.5 mm) and stroke is 3.70 inches (94 mm).[3] It has an aluminum engine block with cast-in iron cylinder liners and an aluminum DOHC cylinder head. It uses SFI fuel injection, has 4 valves per cylinder and features fracture-split forged powder metal connecting rods and a one-piece cast crankshaft."

[jfive]

I think the compression is not an issue with this level and if anything will just help you spool quicker, and make more overall hp with less boost. I would do a front mount intercooler like a cheap ebay one.

[Helgaiden]

eh i dunno, that'll just make it more expensive and more complicated. Would be easier to get the turbo done up then when time and money available, possibly the intercooler after idunno. Got any links to these cheap ebay ones?

still curious about these questions though...
Would the turbo mount before or after the cat? What is a blow through MAF setup? The stock MAF is no good for forced induction at low PSI i take it? A setup like this would be fine with stock sensors, injectors, etc?

[fordnut71]

cx racing has the piping an coolers your looking for.

[Helgaiden]

what exactly what I be looking for? They dont have a Ranger specific listing and stuff. Can you get me some links? Thanks alot :)

[rangergt]

You will not find anything specific to the ranger everything has to be custom fabricated. Focus guys are making 12 psi 240 whp on stock internals but they have good tuning as well.

The ranger dtec is 9.7:1 compression ratio, so no problem with a turbo. You will find some answers here http://www.turborangerforums.com/showthread.php?t=2404 and here http://www.turborangerforums.com/showthread.php?t=1788

[Helgaiden]

Cool thanks alot ill read up

[rangergt]

Compression ratio is 9.7:1. Had a brain cramp. Still no problem with the turbo as focus guys have the same compression ratio running 12 psi.

[Helgaiden]

ah right cool. I knew i was close lol