Need HELP FAST PLEASE

[freelife04239]

Ok this is the deal. I found a realy nice 98 ranger stepside auto with 2.5 and bad tranny, it only has 103,00 on it for 600.00 just down the road from me. I own a 91 5speed 2.3 ranger and, I own a tc 2.3 turbo with wires and ecu. I want to know if I can pull my 91 2.3 tranny and all to put it in the 98 ranger??? i would use my wireharnes and computer from the 91 but that dose not support antilock brakes and i dont know how to make all my gagus work. Please help i want to go buy the 98 tomorow befor i looses it to some one else.



Also i will not spend 1100.00 on a rebuilt auto junk i hate auto.

wating till next summer to put turbo in the 98 if i get it

[freelife04239]

http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/1913074807.html
this is it was told 600.00 on phone

[BogusSVO]

not a bad looking truck

sounds like you are tryin to make this harder than you need too....

you should be able to swap the 91 trans into the 98, now what issues you will have with the drive shaft and trans cross member and the pedals I have no Idea.

leave the 98 harness in the truck, get the SCT OBDII tuner, pull the 2.3 from the 91 ranger and install the 87 TC rods and pistons into the 91 ranger block and get that built and drop it inplace of the 2.5 of the 98

[freelife04239]

I did not know about any crossmember changes? I thought that the 5speed in 91 was same as 98 5speed. my only worry was changing over to ODB1 from 2. I have no testing here but i want my speedo to work and not to have abunch of lights on in my dash for abs and things.

[fordnut71]

what bogus is telling you to do is take the auto out an replace it with a 5 speed. take the guts out of the 2.3t motor an put them inside the 2.5l motor. you wont have to mess with any obd2-1 swap.in a few weeks you have a 98 2.3turbo 5 speed truck that can be tuned with a sct obd2 tuner.

[BogusSVO]

what bogus is telling you to do is take the auto out an replace it with a 5 speed. take the guts out of the 2.3t motor an put them inside the 2.5l motor. you wont have to mess with any obd2-1 swap.in a few weeks you have a 98 2.3turbo 5 speed truck that can be tuned with a sct obd2 tuner.

yea, thats it.

[freelife04239]

why not pull head off the 98 and just put it on the 91 block that way i dont need to send any thing to the shop.

with the reading i have done the 98 block and the turbocupe 2.3 block are the same block, - the 2.3 crank, rods, forged pistons, and the oil return should be the only diff between the 2.3tc motor and the 98.
Is this right?????

[BogusSVO]

no that is not right....
the 91 block has to get the 2.3 TURBO rods and pistons so that engine can use the turbo and have the hookups for the crank sensor.

the 87/88 TC blocks ccan be drilled and tapped for the crank sensor..

and why would you put the 98 head on the 91 block?

[Riddle_Rob]

EDIS vs Distrubtor. Coil packs vs rotor and cap. Correct?

[freelife04239]

ok so i could just put my 90k turbo motor in the ranger it already has the tc 5speed hooked to it but i would need to have the blockek drilled to fit the sensor???????


or pull the 91 ranger block apart put the tc head on,and full rotating assmbly in it. Then drop that in the ranger with the t3/4 turbo ,the stock 98 ecu and have it tuned.???????

im trying to stay cheap for now, Iv been building up the parts but I just want to make this 98 ranger run using the smallest amount of money for the maine winter. then in spring im going to go all out

[fordnut71]

the way you were told the 1st time is the easy way to do it also the cheaper way to do it. in the short an long run its the cheapest to do.
all your going to do is pull the pistons an rods out of the tc motor an place them in the 2.5l
tap the block for a return line while you have it apart, theres got to be a million pic on here of where an how to tap the block. drop a new set of rings on the pistons an a qk hone of the block. should be under 200 to have a shop do this for you,if you dont feel like doing it.then its put on the dp head an take the turbo stuff off the tc motor an place it on your new 2.3l.take your t5 clutch set up an put it on there while its out.take a sat afternoon an drop it all in the 98 engine bay.by monday its obd2 tuneable from jess,18psi,300hp.

[freelife04239]

nice ok so you think i can have this alrready to run for under 500.00 in parts and laber??? if i do most of it my self like pulling the tc pistons and doing the hone then slap all the trubo stuff in my stock 98 block with an oil line.



The big question is what trany will mount in there with the least work the tc tranny or the 91 ranger tranny

[fordnut71]

91 ranger tranny should fall right in there,but your gona have to put in the peddle set an clutch master.keep the t5 for later on if you want to swap 1 in.

[freelife04239]

well i know what imdoing tomorow im going to buy that 98 did you see the pics in the add looks real nice with only 103k

[speedaddict]

First I'd go buy the truck.

Then I would come back here and do research.

After that i would get a later model M5od and put in there along with pedals, crossmember the whole shebang. Once i got the truck mobile then would i start worryin about the motor.

Do 1 thing at a time dont get ahead of yourself. Yes $600 is a good price depending on rust damage. If i lived up there and saw this i'd be over there right now loading it up on the trailer.


My 0.02 cents

[freelife04239]

got to wait till tomorow lol i would be loading it up if i could right now.

would like to do every thing in one sweet swap not pull tranny then put in 5speed then pull motor and do that and put it in. It would just be to much time think it would go better if i hall it over hear rip every thing out and do motor and tranny all at same time so its over with. just turn my boost way down till i get it tuned

[freelife04239]

ok now whats the auto computer going to think of the 5speed or iIshould say lack of tranny because the computer controles the tranny in 98. the computer wont see a trany at all will this mess things up??

[Foolee]

to my understanding you will just get a bunch of cel's. What you want is a 2.5 98-2000 5speed ecu, and if you find a extra pm me I need one.:yesnod:

[freelife04239]

after more reading i would need 90mm mass befor i could put any boost to it. I would also need a tune befor i can put any boost to it. Any idea what kinda money im looking at to get this stuff. I only want 275-300 hp

[Riddle_Rob]

to my understanding you will just get a bunch of cel's. What you want is a 2.5 98-2000 5speed ecu, and if you find a extra pm me I need one.:yesnod:

I found mine on www.car-part.com

[freelife04239]

thanks alot thats a nice site you gave me

[freelife04239]

I know some about this but im new to the 2.5 turbo so some of the lingo im not sure on. What is the DP head? is that the turbo d port head? Probly a dumb question but i want to have my facts right.

[dangeranger93]

dp head is the 8 plug head from the ranger, stands for dual plug

[AJ_Fritz]

both the 91 and 98 are small main journal blocks. the TC is large.

you would need to take the 96 block and 91 crank and add the TC rods and pistons. still would need injectors maf and a tuner. its would also not be that cheap.

cheapest solution would be do the transmission swap first and gear up for the turbo swap next year when you have a plan.

[freelife04239]

well the tc injectors will not work ??????


and what would a custom tune on a chip cost me ????

[freelife04239]

im sure i could get by with stock tc injectors if i keep the boost around
12-15psi. I should only need a 90mm massair and a tune i think i can swing a hone, new rings, and gaskits. If I put boost control on and turnded it down to5psi could I get by with stock massair and no tune for the winter.

[AJ_Fritz]

they are low imp your ecu is high imp... you would need a resistor pack to use them.

no way unless you didnt hook up the turbo at all.

[freelife04239]

realy good info guys thanks.Im just doing the 5 speed swap for now and in spring I will do the trubo the right way.

[fordnut71]

to my understanding you will just get a bunch of cel's. What you want is a 2.5 98-2000 5speed ecu, and if you find a extra pm me I need one.:yesnod:

this should be able to turn off with sct tuning.


foolee i got a flh2 in mississauga a few months back from car-parts.com