Duratec ranger turbo build

[rangergt]

So I'm starting to collect the components to turbocharge my '07 ranger. I still have to get a turbo but I have noticed that misubishi turbos are compact and readily available as a lot of mitsu guys upgrade. It might be the perfect turbo as far as size, availability and budget go, I'll have to research this more.

I have my stainless weld elbows and the material for the flanges. I have enough to build 2 headers. One for the '07 and one for the GT.

[Ron83ranger]

yeah alot of guys with the evos switch out their turbos for garretts and such. they come with something similar to a td05 16g which are good for at least 300 to the wheels on their cars. with quick spool to boot. only they have a reverse scroll compared to other turbos. may help on fitment though.

[AJ_Fritz]

if your proficient with auto cad and can make me a file i can get you lazer cut flanges in stainless. i know you already bought the plates but i could save you alot of time with the hand labor.

[rangergt]

Thanks Ron83ranger, I didn't know that about mitsu turbos.

It's funny you say that because I've decided this will be the last flange I will machine, it is a tedious task especially with stainless steel. I have the flange almost finished. It's been a while since I've used autocad but I could still navigate my way around with a little practice. Thanks AJ, good to know for the future, it would definitley be a better way to go.

[AJ_Fritz]

you get me the file i do it for free.

[rangergt]

I don't have autocad or any other design programme at the moment but I appreciate that.

[spoolin4.0]

sorry i dont quite get the issue here lol, are you just short a flange for the compressor inlet? if thats what you're after you should be able to just purchase a stainless one from vibrant, theres a few different versions of the 16g but also the slightly bigger 18g from an STI. the 18g uses the 5 bolt pattern and you can buy the bellmouth flange for internal wastegate as well as the blocked off if you plan to run external.

[rangergt]

No issue, I have machined all my flanges from stainless steel but it is a PITA and hard on tooling so I have decided that I won't machine them any more. So next time I need some I'll have to get myself a cad programme and seek AJ's help. I find vibrant way over priced so I have always found other sources.

[rangergt]

I just bought an ebay turbo for this as I needed it for mock up. I finally found one cheap enough with reasonable shipping $230 total. it's a t25/t28 that's all I care about as it's just for mockup and I will buy a better quality turbo like a garrett t28 when it comes time to make this setup operational.

[rangergt]

So I got my t25/t28 turbo today, it's kinda cute. You guys don't really use these little things do ya? :hehe: I took a pic of it beside my holset hx40(w/ garrett t3 turbine housing), WOW what a difference.

I took a look under the hood of my '07 with the turbo in my hand and I see no problem making a header/manifold that will locate the turbo without clearance issues. It will still be a while before I actually complete or even really get started on this project but now I look forward to it as it seams very practical to do.

[Ron83ranger]

i know everyone wants the biggest turbo possible but garrett has some seriously efficient turbos in small packages.there is a gt28rs turbo that flows enough air for over 300hp. thats more than the bigger stock t3 can do.

[rangergt]

I was just joking around. Actually some of the gt28's will make over 400hp. I'm just setting up a mild setup for this truck, less than 250hp so this little guy will fit the bill.

[TrndAssassin]

So ive been following your other Dtec turbo build pretty closely without posting and then I saw this and Well im interested to see the final product....as I am considering doing a small / mild turbo setup on my 03 dtec some day in the future...
was wondering if this was gonna be a stock bottom end build...just boost the motor for 5-7lbs of boost or what....and when you were done..if you'd be maybe interested in making a duplicate of your final header setup...and intake setup for sale?

[rangergt]

My plan is to put a turbo setup on the stock engine so it won't be to crazy of a setup, less then 10lbs of boost for sure. When I get it successfully completed then it would always be possible to duplicate it to sell but I need a finished project first.

[K G]

i know everyone wants the biggest turbo possible but garrett has some seriously efficient turbos in small packages.there is a gt28rs turbo that flows enough air for over 300hp. thats more than the bigger stock t3 can do.

The gt2860rs aka the Disco Potato should support hp too 360 the gt2871r should run a little more. Works best on 1.8 to 3.0 liter engines.
I havn't found one less than $800 used and 1200 new.
KG

[TrndAssassin]

lol well ranger Gt.....Hurry up..........as I'll be waiting in line for parts..im willing to do ac delete to Run turbo on stock bottom end...lol..hopefully will be ordering a sct tuner with the next month or two.....and then doing my exhaust.....with exception of the header!

[franks]

why are you havin to do away with A/C? with a battery relocation you should be able to keep it.

[rangergt]

The battery is on the drivers side in a duratec ranger so that won't help. Not having A/C would make packaging the turbo system easier. Since I have a turbo for this setup now, I'm sure it can be packaged with removing the A/C though.

I may get started on this in the fall.. maybe.

[rangergt]

So I built a header collector with a t25 flange to try and build a header and I think it's safe to say there is no easy way to make a nice header fit. I'll have to take a closer look but I think i'll end up just fabbing a simple manifold up, that I'm sure will fit nicely. Back to the drawing board.

[AJ_Fritz]

if its a low boost app i wouldnt go to crazy on a header, build something good and durable.

i been looking at the 01 and up rangers real hard, i get one i'll be able to help you out.

[rangergt]

Well I figured out how to make a nice little header, I was over thinking it trying to make longer tubes. It will be a short tube simple setup but I'm locating the turbo where the AC would be, since I don't have AC it works for me. I was originally going to try and make a header setup that would work with AC but I would have to relocate to many water lines and wiring and I don't really want to get into that, I'm not tearing the truck half way apart to put a turbo on, it's my daily driver and work truck so it can't have much down time. I still think it can be setup to accomadate the AC but it would be a lot of work. My setup will require relocating of the oil dipstick tube, just have to bend the tube another direction. This setup would allow me to make a down pipe that would bolt right up to the factory cat pipe:).

Yep that`s the plan AJ make it tough and durable so it`s only done once, bolt it on and enjoy.

[TURBO Ranger]

Lol, that t25 is like a turbo only smaller j/k. It ought to have virtually no lag though. You make me feel lazy gt, i need to hurry up and get started on my 91 lol

[rangergt]

Yes that's what I thought about the t25 turbo at first as well. When I got it and pulled it out of the box, my first though was that'll look cool hangin' off the side of the weedeater, surely it's not big enough for a 2.3 lol. Yes it'll spool up quick and the duratec ranger is out of steam by 5500rpm in the higher gears anyway so it should work good for a mild setup.

These duratec rangers are tight. They didn't build them with aftermarket performance in mind. A turbo can be fit up in there somehow but it''l take a lot of work. I really think the only easy way to do it is like jsv578, remote or like in my case no AC:rockwoot:.

Really I feel like I've been slacking latley, I should have the turbo manifold done by now, hopefully soon.

[jsv578]

more I think to my built and more I try to see where the ek could I put a turbo under the hood... and with the a/c ... I think a set-up like Jonteric could be perfect. put the turbo over the cam cover and use the earlier cam cover in alu instead of plastic. But with a stock motor height it will require a modification of the hood. but is a scoop will look crazyer than a air filter under a truck...:hehe:

[derk06dtec]

wow jsv thats exactly what i wanted.... the turbo sticking half way out the hood that would look sooooooo mean best part would be a totally stock looking ranger with a quite exhaust but yet a huge turbo sticking up in a hood scoop then when they laugh switch on the cutouts and show then what real power is

[rangergt]

Like I said in the thread "turbocharging a duratec ranger" it can be done but the impression I got form reading other boards about a turbo duratec ranger, they want someone else to do all the hard work and sell a bolt on kit. The market just isn't big enough for a company to make that type an investment. So that means only the people willing to do a little dirty work will have a turbocharged duratec ranger. If your willing to relocate a few items and compromise on a few things then an duratec ranger with AC can be acheived with the turbo under the hood.

Orange Alpine showed a nice AC relocation bracket and yes it would take a bit of work relocating all the components and getting the proper hoses setup but again it comes down to how bad you want a turbo. The lima guys have overcome all these obstacles before so it's not new, just a different engine setup.

I don't want to have to relocate things on my truck either but I already have a toy. To set mine up though all I have to relocate is the dipstick tube :moon: thanks to no AC. I can work with that.

[rangergt]

So here is the turbo manifold complete with the turbo hanging on it but it won`t fit in the ranger like this, I`ll just have to make a short extension tube to go between the turbo and the manifold because the turbo will be located a little forward and out a bit to clear the AC mount bracket. The turbo will actually be mounted to the AC bracket. One thing complete.

[derk06dtec]

looks really good rangergt if i get my build started my brother might weld me up a mani but i was thinking of doing just like u have it but make the turbo sit farther up and at an angle so about 1/3-1/2 of the turbo will stick out of the hood and have a buddy make me a nice hood scoop i think it would help performance on track days and add a little BA factor into a totally stock looking ranger

[rangergt]

Thanks.

That would make it easier to fit the turbo.

[derk06dtec]

only issue I've found with a set up like that is well common sense cracking... everyone has been telling me yes having it up in the hood will look good and make it easier to fit the turbo but might have a lot of cracking but come on there has to be some way to help brace it or somthing

[travelor101]

Awwe, please don't stop updating nowww.. I have been doing research of my own after getting a replacement 01 edge due to a broadside to my 96. I am thinking of picking up an 01 dtec from the junkyard and just swapping bearings, rings, rods, and pistons. 1 My thing is with the forged pistons, I am thinking of keeping the same compression as it seems to work well for them now with a tune ofcourse. 2 Swapping over everything in stock form and running it like that for the break-in. Then 3, finally throwing the turbo and tune on once I figure out the manifold for my application (with other general upgrades).

I also heard you say something about the battery location. I figure while the truck is down the wiring could be done before the transplant, at least in my application. Is any other wiring presenting challenge for you?

I hear about these 6spd upgrades and stuff quite a bit now. What tranny are you going for?

Real interested in you manifolds end result. :cheers2:

[rangergt]

This set up is just for my stock '07, nothing wild just a mild turbo setup so it'll have the stock transmission in it. I have one that's silly enough already, I don't need two.

The battery is on the other side so it's no problem, but reloacting the windshield washer bottle and coolant overflow may help provide room depending on how you set it up.

[travelor101]

Ya, I've been eyeballing that area pretty hard lately thinking there must be a way to free up some room. I am going to take some pics at the junkyard for reference here this weekend most likely. I may even practice fitting a shoebox in there somewhere for ideas :hehe: Anyway, good lookin stuff man!