just ordered my mega squrit

[4bangeranger]

hey guys it has been a wile for me since a have been on here..

well anyways i am down to the last steps to getting my truck running. if u dont know what im building i will tell you really quick. i have a 2.3 ranger block with dp head fully ported with big valves & stock cam. crower 5.7 rods and 9 to 1 forged pistons. i know 9 to 1 is higher than normal. a t 70 cheep turbo 4 now. a nice trf header. btw jessy i get tons of compliments on that all the time. arp studs 1035 gasket. stock intake man. all port matched and ported. for the trans its a t-5 and a 373 mustang posi in the rearend. i said all that because i would like to put a mega squrit in it right off the bat. as well i just ordered my ms v3 un assembled and am now waiting for a little guidence to put it all togeather im compleatly new to the ms systems and plan to take it to a local ford speed tuner. i just need to know where i can find out what connections to make or an idea of where i can find the information that i can trust. some times the ms forums i dont trust lol. i fell you guys here can help me head in the right direction. here is the list i bought to start this kit i hope it is everything that i need. thanks guys any help or comments would be great.

MS230-K $247 Megasquirt-II kit with V3.0 PCB
MK-Pullup $2 Pullup resistors mod-kit
MK-PWMIAC $7.50 PWM idle air control mod kit
MK-Boost $7.50 Electronic boost control mod kit
EBC_Sol_kit $39 EBC Electronic Boost Control Solenoid Kit
MSStim22-K $45 Stimulator kit
StimPower $7.99 Power supply for Stim or DIYPNP
MSHarness $65 12' wiring harness
IATwPiggy $22.25 Intake Air Temperature Sensor
38NPT-Bung_A $9 Aluminum bung for IAT sensor (Also available in stainless steel)
TuneCable $5.50 6' DB9 tuning cable
USB-2920 $22.50 (Only needed if your laptop doesn’t have a true DB9 port)


thanks
nick siczak

[jfive]

I'm Jealous. Hopefully with my tax return, I can order mine and start reading, then soldering. What part of florida are you at? It has been a while since you have been on.

[4bangeranger]

yess it has been a wile i have been through it all lateley. i live in clearwater area.

[jfive]

Thats so funny. I was just there for four days. Stayed in clearwater near a really cool muscle car dealership on the side of us 19.

[4bangeranger]

hahahahaha i build about 5 of those cars. thats funny what are the odds.

[jfive]

Not to flood your thread or anything, but there was a drag strip that we drove by on the way to venice, that was just south of clearwater. It looked a little old, but I was wondering if its still in use. Maybe you know the one I am talking about. I tried to get my wife to take a picture but we were going like 75 with the traffic.

[D94R]

If you want to save $8 get a wal-wart supply from a portable DVD player or the like and use it for the STIM power. You just need to make sure it's unregulated voltage is OK for MS and that it can supply enough current to power it. The one I use is from an older portable DVD player and works perfect.

[4bangeranger]

lol damn i already bought it. and i think your talking about this strip http://www.bradentonmotorsports.com/ thats a 1/4 mile but there is also one right in clearwater acrosst form the airport thats an 1/8 http://www.sunshinedragstrip.com/ it was a 1/4 till big daddy don could not stop and flue through ulmerton at 150 mph that would be somthing to see driving a dragster fly over the road. but back to the ms do i have to switch to edis or can i use my stock trigger?

[jfive]

I was told you can do it without the EDIS if you want. I am looking at using LS1 coils and not using a EDIS wheel. Are you going to use a factory wiring harness adapter? For the price, it seams like a good deal to me. Also what case did you get. This is the kit I am looking at, so you can see what I mean about the eec iv adaptor. http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/diypnp-ford-60-pin-eeciv-unassembled-kit-p-421.html

[fordnut71]

could i run a 89 mustang 2.3t using that ?
i dont anything about ms any more i remember it was the cats meow when v1 came out lol

[D94R]

4banger, you can use your stock trigger assembly, you just have to set up the MS board for the correct type of pickup sensor. I think most people go with EDIS cause you can set up the board two ways with EDIS (internal control, or external EDIS module control), either way has its pros/cons, and it's a bit more accurate.

Fordnut, you could run your lawn mower with MS.... so yes :)

[4bangeranger]

hahaha you really can run whatever you want on it. and it seems really step by step. i use to put chips in my friends ricers and stuff all the time. i was just good at soldering from when i made rc cars. i figure if i take my time and do it right, it should be no problem.its the ms2 with v 3.0 so its not the best but it should work. i think if i went with my crank trigger(which is slightley tweeked) i think i should run it as a tpi im going to call dyi auto tomorrow, because i also hear it works on DIS. here is a link http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=28632&start=0 . however i was thinking about going with a edis just because its not the in the best shape anyways i tryed to take it off and never did and i bent it. dose anyone know how the edis fits on the crank? can i still use my pullys? i have not found the answers to these questions yet. also i think i need an adjustable cam gear. hope to get that on friday. im going through it now to make sure i have everything.

[jfive]

I may have lucked out a bit. A few kids in my welding class are electronic junkies. One funny enough is into making RC rock crawlers, and the other two like making things that do things. The one kid was really quite all class, until this guy mentioned working on a circut board for this thing he is building and then the kid opened up and seamed to be pretty smart about building electronics. I need to get a good soldering iron and do some practice stuff. wouldn't be good to mess up a megasquirt. Have you ever used one of those cold heat soldering tool. I wonder if it might help. I'm a sucker for that as seen on tv junk.

[D94R]

The EDIS pickup is mounted to the front seal plate (where as the DIS pickup is bolted to the block). The EDIS 36-1 wheel is integrated as part of the front crank pulley (on 95+ Ranger pulleys). The crank trigger wheel/pulley will fit your stock crank just like any other Ranger pulley, so no issues there. The rest of the pulleys line up like factory so you are still good to go with your accessories.

You only need and adjustable cam gear if you think you need to adjust the cam timing, otherwise your stock one will get you started and running just fine.

[D94R]

I may have lucked out a bit. A few kids in my welding class are electronic junkies. One funny enough is into making RC rock crawlers, and the other two like making things that do things. The one kid was really quite all class, until this guy mentioned working on a circut board for this thing he is building and then the kid opened up and seamed to be pretty smart about building electronics. I need to get a good soldering iron and do some practice stuff. wouldn't be good to mess up a megasquirt. Have you ever used one of those cold heat soldering tool. I wonder if it might help. I'm a sucker for that as seen on tv junk.


Cold solder guns are junk. Do not be willing to trust the performance and assembly of the most critical part of your cars functionality to a cold soldering gun. Go get a 15w or better yet a 25w solder gun and practice with it. The faster you can get the contact points hot enough to get the solder to flow the better because of less heat transfer through the board and other components.

There are tips and tricks to getting a proper solder flow and joint that can be addressed at the right time.

Or pay me to build your MS for you ;)

[4bangeranger]

looking up what i need im having the problem seeing if i can run a dp head on an edis-4 or do i have to get the edis-8 idk i feel so dumb now. lol i just dont want to buy parts twice. and how do i mount the wheel to the pully if i get a kit, should i find a ranger in the junk yard??? im so confused a little help please D94R i know u know.

[jfive]

I was wondering that myself, since is says supports 4 plugs coil on plug, but I was pretty sure you could run 8. You planing on using you ranger coils, or LS ones.

[D94R]

First thing first. Do you want to have the EDIS controlled internally by the MS itself. Or do you want to have the ignition signal sent to an external EDIS module that then controls the spark?


I'm not sure exactly what you are asking about running the 8 plugs vs 4. Both plugs fire at the same time in one cylinder. But, in stock form they are batch fired. 1 and 4 will fire at the same time, and 2 and 3 will fire at the same time. (the cylinder pairing might not be correct, but for my point here it does not matter). This is called waste spark ignition because only one of those cylinders is sparking on its power stroke, the other one is merely "wasting" its spark.


Sooooooo, if you're asking if the MS can drive two plugs at the same time per cylinder for EDIS ignition, the answer is YES. If you are asking if the the EDIS module itself can drive two plugs per cylinder, then I'm not 100% sure because Ford didn't use an external EDIS module for the Rangers. I'm leaning towards a YES though, the EDIS module would be sending the command to the coil to ignite, so I don't see a problem with that signal telling two coils to ignite really.




I'm not gonna touch the COP ability though as that isn't something I've researched, and probably won't because that doesn't interest me right now anyhow.

[4bangeranger]

nice good to know. i found like three rangers with an edis at the junkyard. so i will prob pull one this weekend

[4bangeranger]

welll i thought i f*cked my board up badddddddddddddddd i was working on it to late from 5 pm to 5 am built my stim and it went super smooth took only like one hour. so i started on my main board. i went built my power circuit. so i went to test it. on pins everything was good till i got to pin 31 and 32 on the cpu. had nothing so i went crazy trying to find out what i did wrong then i looked harder and i made the dumbest mistake ever i switched the polarity on the 9 volt batter. so i switched it around and plugged my stim in and still did not have 5 volts to the two pins. turns out i just needed to clean my board now its all good. all i had to do was clean it. and the pins were good. 5.04 volts every where. however i talked to my dad who works for honeywell and a retired electronics engineer wants to build the rest for a project for fun. so i will give it to him on tue. however i got to the step to check the connectivity to a computer and it worked really good. had some problems with my db9 to usb connector at first but now its all good. just got my laptop today... so i will let u know when its time to get to tuning.

[D94R]

Thats why I suggest the walwart, cause you'll be doing "virtual" tuning with the Stim on battery power, and once that 9V starts to lose it's charge you'll run into all kinds of issues and start pulling your hair our figuring out what is wrong. Till you finally test the battery to find out it's only putting out 6V... ask me how I know lol.

[4bangeranger]

lol thats the first thing in the trouble shoot. the new stim from like the one i bought from dyi autotune come with a ac adapter that u install in the board check it out. its next to the battery block. http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb175/1979spirit/ms7.jpg