Ranger 5spd low $$ clutch solution.

[Jesshwarren]

I have now tested this and I can say it works very well :=)

If you have a T/C flywheel this is a 190-200$ clutch that will hold 400+ RWHP.

A 1988 T/C, SVO fly wheel 65$ or you may have a used one laying around.

A 1988 T/C pressure plate.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=CTF%2DCF360035&N=700+4294925005+4294908331+4294907842+4294869676+ 4294925134+4294859738+115&autoview=sku

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=PHT&MfrPartNumber=MU478271&PartType=244&PTSet=A

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1430182,parttype,1993

A 3.0L Mazda b3000 clutch disk.
And go to www.Clutchnet.com and buy a 3.0L Mazda b3000 clutch disk. The b3000 ran a 9 1/8" disk. This is the disk I bought. http://www.clutchnet.com/product.php?productid=16727&cat=0&page=1
http://www.clutchnet.com/photos/4button_sprung02.jpg

I am running a Ram PP it is basically a stock PP. The T/C fly wheel from advance auto 65$ and the b3000 sprung hub disk. Unlike spec this clutch actually releases, peddle feels very good. Launching at the drags yesterday at 4000RPM's and 20+ PSI off the line it performed flawlessly. I ran 30PSI down the track and it never slipped :rockwoot:

[flyin]

Good useful info.

[nagelandy55]

Right on so my clutch will hold some serious power!

Just a note, you need to use a PP from a TC with a hydraulic bell housing cause i tried a cable pull type PP and it didn't work with this exact setup.

Thanks jess.

[AJ_Fritz]

here is something to make you think. i am using the cable pull with my set up on the stang and it is fine. stock replacement TC pressure plate and a 4 puck ceramic disk.

[nagelandy55]

You're using a T5 and we're running the stock M50D or whatever its called ..... almost had me lol

The cable pull PP's fingers aren't long enough for our transmissions, the fingers between a cable pull PP and hydraulic PP must be a little different.

I think i documented this on RPS a while back, but instead of comparing to the TC hydralic PP i was comparing to the stock ranger PP which shouldn't be any different.

[D94R]

From my limited experience with the last two fried "clutches", it's not our stock clutches that are weak, it's the stock Ford (or auto parts store) pressure plate.

If you go to the auto parts store, the "Heavy Duty" upgrade for our 2.3 is just the 3.0 clutch set.

But, like I said, its the cheaper pressure plates that get burnt. The two clutches themselves were fine and not glazed at all. Jess is on to something here with the Ram PP.



But, next time I go to change clutches again I'll have the T5 tossed in there with some combination of 4puck disk and heavy PP.

[AJ_Fritz]

the thing is yours is a hydro bell with a hydro PP. i am running a cable bell with a hydro PP. you would think the problems would be the other way around. maybe the difference is you need to run the TC slave cylinder.

DR94 i think the main problem with the clutches slipping is the clutch material. with the stock material you need alot higher clamping pressures to keep it from slipping. you run a 4 puck ceramic and clamping pressures dont need to be half as high because they bite alot harder into the flywheel and PP. it also has to do with geometry too. larger ODs like brakes helps with clutchs.

[nagelandy55]

the thing is yours is a hydro bell with a hydro PP. i am running a cable bell with a hydro PP. you would think the problems would be the other way around. maybe the difference is you need to run the TC slave cylinder.



Could be but i'm not sure if it would bolt up to the same holes as the M50D slave cylinder.

[turboparton]

I have now tested this and I can say it works very well :=)

If you have a T/C flywheel this is a 190-200$ clutch that will hold 400+ RWHP.

A 1988 T/C, SVO fly wheel 65$ or you may have a used one laying around.

A 1988 T/C pressure plate.

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this maybe a dumb question, but why the TC PP and flywheel?

I'm courious because my clutch slips when hit around 9-10 psi, so I'm looking for a better clutch, however I want one that will still allow me to slip it some to get trailers moving for the few times I do haul stuff...

[LSV8]

Could be but i'm not sure if it would bolt up to the same holes as the M50D slave cylinder.

The T5 uses an external slave to actuate a fork. So it definately will not work on an M5OD.

I am running a stock (but new) TC clutch, pp, and flywheel. I wanted to blame my slipping issues on a weak pressue plate... and I figured I'd at least try that before buying a new clutch (hate to waste a brand new clutch). What "heavy" pp are you you guys running in your T5's that seem better than stock?

I guess the good thing for all of us Ranger owners, is the fact that we can have a trans off the truck and on a bench in just a few minutes.:=)

[turboparton]

The T5 uses an external slave to actuate a fork. So it definately will not work on an M5OD.



Sorry, but i'm a little lost on this thread. Is the combo Jess stated initially for a T5 or a ranger m5od? I neve saw where he switched to a T5, so I assumed the stated stepup at the start of this post was for a ranger m5od....

[LSV8]

Sorry, but i'm a little lost on this thread. Is the combo Jess stated initially for a T5 or a ranger m5od? I neve saw where he switched to a T5, so I assumed the stated stepup at the start of this post was for a ranger m5od....


He is speaking of the M5OD. He was using a TC pp and flywheel, which are both T5 parts. The clutch was from a 3.0 truck, so it will have M5 splines (T5 has 10 splines, M5 has 23).

I don't think Jess ever went T5.. iirc he went M5 to C4.

I guess I might have thrown it off a little... but since we were on the subject of TC/SVO/T5 pressure plates...

[turboparton]

I thought the 3.0 clutch would work fine with the std 2.3/2.5L pp and flywheel, so why change to the TC PP & FW; if it was just for the added clamping force of the TC's PP, couldn't you get that from a performance PP for the 3.0 or 2.3/2.5 ranger?

[Jesshwarren]

I thought the 3.0 clutch would work fine with the std 2.3/2.5L pp and flywheel, so why change to the TC PP & FW; if it was just for the added clamping force of the TC's PP, couldn't you get that from a performance PP for the 3.0 or 2.3/2.5 ranger?


Yes the 3.0L clutch will work with the 2.3 / 2.5L. I Used a 9 1/16th" disk from www.clutchnet.com. The T/C flywheel and 88 T/C PP where used because the T/C PP is stronger and costs less than the ranger PP.

M50D tranny
88 T/C PP
88 T/C FW
9 1/16" 3.0L Ceramic disk.

T/C 1800lb 80-150$
HD 2.3L 2.5L ranger PP 225$

One of these clutches and a disk from clutch net.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1140275,parttype,1993

[gumby]

i had many of the same questions at the beginning of this thread, but i dug up all the parts and putting them in my hands tonight really helped me to visualize and dispel certain assumptions i had made.

just to make this all absolutely clear as mud;
you cannot use a 3.0 PP on a 2.3 FW. i mocked up the parts tonight at the store, and they do not match.
the HD 2.3 option is not a 3.0 clutch(see above)
one reason for the TC PP is to take full advantage of the larger 3.0 disc. the 9.125" 3.0 disc would not be much, if any, advantage on a stock 8.875" 2.3 PP
the TC PP is 9.25", and the FW is drilled to utilize the larger PP. since my TC FW isnt drilled for the smaller PP, i doubt the stock N/A FW has to proper mountings for the 9.25" PP. the aftermarket FW i looked at had a dual pattern for both sizes of PP.
tossing in the additional clamping force of the TC PP is extra bonus.


im sure the clutch in my +200K truck isnt gonna be in great shape this spring when i tear it apart for the turbo swap. unless it was actually replaced recently like the PO stated......
if anything needs changed, im gonna throw a 3.0 disc in with my spare TC FW and PP. :rockwoot:

[D94R]

Ah, So there is a difference then between the Turbo and Ranger Fly Wheels?

Any Idea then what constitutes the 2.3HD "upgrade" then?

[gumby]

i havent looked at a ranger flywheel in a while, i will know for sure this spring.....but i know for sure my TC FW is not drilled for the small PP, and the aftermarket one at my store has a dual pattern. same aftermarket p/n for both applications though.

not sure on the HD upgrade. i would hafta go to the "other" parts store and see if they have one in stock they would let me open.....

[Krazyrngr]

Curious is the TC stuff the same as the Merkur stuff?

[Jesshwarren]

Curious is the TC stuff the same as the Merkur stuff?

Yea motors are pretty much the same. I think the Merkur was non intercooled.

[Krazyrngr]

What about the flywheel clutch and pp? I still ahve those from my first block and they look very good almost newish. I should wait till Im ready to put the motor in but just curious in my ranger I had a kevlar clutch put in a few years back when i had a rebuilt tranny put in, so should I just go witht he combo you said would be good the tc flywheel,pp and ranger 3.0 clutch disk? Just curious if the merk stuff I had tranny wise was the same as tc

[ri06667]

Ok so I just ordered the clutch disc for a 92 3.0 ranger, cost me $45. However, they didnt have a pp or flywheel for a tbird... since these are t5 parts, Would they be the same as a mustang with a t5? What is the more likely vehicle for them to have stock for?

[LSV8]

Ok so I just ordered the clutch disc for a 92 3.0 ranger, cost me $45. However, they didnt have a pp or flywheel for a tbird... since these are t5 parts, Would they be the same as a mustang with a t5? What is the more likely vehicle for them to have stock for?

A 4cyl Mustang, yes. V6/V8, no. However, if they do not have a Tbird set in stock... they obviously wouldn't have the Mustang set... as they would be the same part numbers. Unless of course the guy looking them up was a bag of douche.

Can you try another store? Make sure you are telling them Thunderbird Turbo Coupe(2.3L turbo 4cyl w/ T5), or sometimes these parts guys look things up wrong... seems like they always think you are talking about the S/C birds.

[gumby]

they didnt have a pp or flywheel for a tbird... since these are t5 parts, Would they be the same as a mustang with a t5? A 4cyl Mustang, yes. V6/V8, no. However, if they do not have a Tbird set in stock... they obviously wouldn't have the Mustang set... as they would be the same part numbers.

my computers show an 8.5" clutch set for a N/A 4cyl mustang. NOT the same as the TC stuff.
i dont work today, but i can pull it off the shelf tomorrow to double check.

[ri06667]

I imagine the N/A stuff would be quite a bit weaker than the turbo stuff. So options are 86ish svo mustang or 87 88 turbo tbird.
Always assume the guy on the phone is a douch, they screw up for me daily :)

[ri06667]

Clutch showed up, fits the tranny. Thats half a step in the right direction :D

[LSV8]

my computers show an 8.5" clutch set for a N/A 4cyl mustang. NOT the same as the TC stuff.
i dont work today, but i can pull it off the shelf tomorrow to double check.


Keyword: "N/A". When I said 4cyl Mustang, I meant to specify SVO, my mistake.

They are both 9" setups. In stock form they are the same size, but have different bolt paterns (when bolting the PP to the FW)... however most aftermarket FWs are drilled for either setup. Saves them from having to produce identical FWs with slightly different paterns, then stocking them with different part numbers.

[ri06667]

Hmmm I apparently didnt read too carefully, I got the stock disc for a 3.0.. I guess Jess was using a ceramic 9 1/16. I measured this stocker and its just under 9... Will this still hold my 300 horses or should I return it?

[gumby]

Keyword: "N/A". When I said 4cyl Mustang, I meant to specify SVO, my mistake.

wouldnt the SVO PP fall under this post:

Just a note, you need to use a PP from a TC with a hydraulic bell housing cause i tried a cable pull type PP and it didn't work with this exact setup.


the SVO uses the same part number clutch set as the early TC in my listings, but still different than the 87-88 TC w/hydraulic bells

[LSV8]

wouldnt the SVO PP fall under this post:


the SVO uses the same part number clutch set as the early TC in my listings, but still different than the 87-88 TC w/hydraulic bells


It's possible... but remember this is all going into an M5OD trans anyway. Not a T5. Even though the M5OD and the 87-88 TC transmissions were both hydraulic, the actuation was completely different. The M5OD slave is internal on the input shaft, and the T5 is external and actuates a fork... just as the cable pull would. So in reality, you wouldn't even think the 87-88 PP would work in the M5, but it does. It would all depend on the movement of the T/O bearing from set up to set up...

Anyway... the only way to know for sure was for someone to try it... and it looks like nagelandy55 already did.

[nagelandy55]

Wow there's alot of confusion about this. Here is what i know, not what i think or what i've heard.

The 86 TC flywheel and 96 Ranger flywheel are not the same, the pegs are mounted closer together on the 96 ranger flywheel.

There for you can't use the 86 TC Pressure plate on the 96 Ranger Flywheel.

You can't use the 86 TC Flywheel and Pressure plate on the M50D tranny as the pressure plate is too shallow and will not contact the throw out bearing.

I've tried all of the above combinations.

Hope this helps a little.

[ri06667]

This simply adds more confusion. Is the fact that it is a 96 signifigant at all???
It was my impression that I need to get ahold of a 3.0 clutch disc and a 86 tc flywheel and pressure plate. assemble all 3 to have a 300+hp clutch for very little $$
Where am I going wrong here, please tell me before I spend any more money.

[LSV8]

This simply adds more confusion. Is the fact that it is a 96 signifigant at all???
It was my impression that I need to get ahold of a 3.0 clutch disc and a 86 tc flywheel and pressure plate. assemble all 3 to have a 300+hp clutch for very little $$
Where am I going wrong here, please tell me before I spend any more money.

Needs to be from an '87-'88

[nagelandy55]

As i said the 86 TC flywheel and PP combo will not work with the stock ranger transmission (M50D).

[Jesshwarren]

One of these clutches and a 3.0L disk from clutch net.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1140275,parttype,1993


The clutch here is what you want. 88 T/C 9 1/4"

For the disk from clutchnet you can ask them for a 9 1/4" disk with a ranger hub or just order there mazda b3000 9 1/16th inch disk.

[ri06667]

Ok good, perhaps most of the confusion was caused by my laziness. Apparently I never seen the disc in the first place. Obviously this is not a stock b3000 disc, still cheap for what you're getting though.
Thanks, I guess I'll be returning my oem b3000 disc to napa.

[ri06667]

Hi everybody!!! Im back to beat a dead horse :P

ANYWAYS
Im still waiting on that sweet 4 puck clutch disc from clutchnet to show up, I received a whole kit for a 88tbird today, of which I guess I'll only be using the pressure plate. (so much for low $$$)
But since I had some spare time on my hands today, I decided to see how it all might go together when I realized I'm still missing the tc flywheel...
SOOOO, Just for fun I decided to see if the flywheel out of my 2.9 would fit, and it matched up perfectly....

My question is, If it fits perfectly, can I use it? My dad mentioned to me that the weight might be off on it because it was for a different engine, I'm really hoping for some input on this.
Plz accept my camera phone picture for no reason at all :D
http://members.shaw.ca/ri06667/IMG_0127.JPG

[ri06667]

bump for information!

[nagelandy55]

Hmm i must have missed this thread somehow.

Anyways, if it fits giver a try. What year is the 2.9 flywheel?

[ri06667]

ya I'm gonna try to put it all together and drop it in today at work.. It's a 1990

[Jesshwarren]

I was thinking the T/C PP had a higher clamping psi like 1800lbs, dunno

[ri06667]

I was thinking the T/C PP had a higher clamping psi like 1800lbs, dunno

we're talking about flywheels here... keep up :P

[fordnut71]

we're talking about flywheels here... keep up :P

hell you all lost me after 1st page lol

[Touring23]

^ LOL
Regarding rio's question,
I want to see a 2.9 FW bolted to a Lima crank and
the starter gear match up.
Don't think it's going to happen, but I could be wrong.
Good luck this w/e. :popcorn:

[ri06667]

^ LOL
Regarding rio's question,
I want to see a 2.9 FW bolted to a Lima crank and
the starter gear match up.
Don't think it's going to happen, but I could be wrong.
Good luck this w/e. :popcorn:

Thats a good point, I never did get around to it that day. However, I have the starters for both the 2.3 and the 2.9.... so I should be able to make it work one way or another

[muddpawz]

WOW!!! Just want to say thanks to Jess for starting this post, and to everyone else who confused the hell out of me!!! Lots of good questions though. Now if someone will just TRY it and let us know what works and to simplify it for those of us who are a tad sloower!! LOL!!

[muddpawz]

how streetable is that clutch your using jess? Says for racing only, and "requires full driver attention..."? I know this setup is for a stock tranny, any one wana start a thread about a cheap T5 setup?

[Jesshwarren]

how streetable is that clutch your using jess? Says for racing only, and "requires full driver attention..."? I know this setup is for a stock tranny, any one wana start a thread about a cheap T5 setup?

It's not bad. Got to get the left foot used to it :D

[muddpawz]

is there a specific throw out bearing that must be used for the swap, or can a factory bearing be used from the ranger? mines trashed and about to give out, and while ive got it out, im gona throw the TC PP & etc. in there.

[ri06667]

For the official bit of record in this thread, the 2.9 FW will not attach to the 2.3 ;) , go get a 88 tc FW

[Jesshwarren]

is there a specific throw out bearing that must be used for the swap, or can a factory bearing be used from the ranger? mines trashed and about to give out, and while ive got it out, im gona throw the TC PP & etc. in there.

Just run the stock ranger throw out bearing.

[muddpawz]

One of these clutches and a disk from clutch net.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...,parttype,1993

Jess, why would you go with the smaller diameter as opposed to the factory OD size?

(p.s. i dont know how to quote from another post, so i did the best i could and copy/pasted it!!!) lol

[muddpawz]

was there only one 2.3L option in the '87-88' TC. I asked for the PP from the 87 TC and the parts store didnt specify a "TURBO" 2.3, it just stated a "2.3", I wana make sure im not getting an N/A clutch kit, if there even was one?

Oh, and I guessing the throwout bearing for the TC wont work with the M5OD will it? Jess didnt mention that in his original post....

[Jesshwarren]

To quote a post just click the quote button on that post.

Here is a good deal. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/83-88-Ford-Mustang-2-3-L-New-Clutch-Kit_W0QQitemZ140298365288QQihZ004QQcategoryZ33730Q QssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp163 8Q2em118Q2el1247
9.25" disk. Call clutch net and ask for a 9.25" ranger disk and you are set as long as you have a T/C fly wheel.

[flyin]

the 87-88 tbirds only had 3 engine options, turbocharged 2.3, 3.8 and 5.0. There was no NA 2.3 offered.

[ddlyspdr]

sorry to beat a dead horse, would a 6 puck be better than a 4 puck??

[muddpawz]

im gona say no, fewer contact points make more pressure at the contact point. If a chick in high heals is standing on your back the point of the heel will puncture you because all the weight is in a very concentrated area, versus the more flat area of tennis shoes would just be uncomfortable and smash you. The larger surface disperses the weight over a larger area, making the contact area have less pressure, if that makes sense?

[ddlyspdr]

makes sense. i figured more clutch area more holding capacity. didnt think about the pressure plate tho. do they make a stiffer pressure plate for the t-bird??

[nagelandy55]

www.clutchnet.com makes some aftermarket pressure plates, i've got the yellow one and its held up pretty good. There is a level higher (red) which is supposed to hold even more power.

[ri06667]

im gona say no, fewer contact points make more pressure at the contact point. If a chick in high heals is standing on your back the point of the heel withh puncture ur cuz all the weight is in a very concentrated area, versus tennis shoes will just be uncomfortable. The larger surface disperses the weight over a larger area, making the contact area have less pressure, if that makes sense?

... but how fat is this chick?

[mastersmith]

ok, sorry to add even more confusion to this thread but my ranger is an 87 and has the tk5, will any of this info apply to my tranny or should I just start looking for an m50d-r1 or a t5. Are the tk5 splines the same as the m50d?

[turboparton]

www.clutchnet.com makes some aftermarket pressure plates, i've got the yellow one and its held up pretty good. There is a level higher (red) which is supposed to hold even more power.

yeah I'm tempted to give the red a try when I rebuild, as I hear the PP is the main issue with our clutch setups. I don't know of any one using it to get any feed back.

Do you know how much rwtq your putting down?

[AJ_Fritz]

ive put 305 rwtq with a stock TC precision pressure plate @18psi running out of fuel at 4800. its still holding now in the stang at 20psi and a good afr all the way to redline.

[turboparton]

Just to clarify I was considering upgrading to the ranger yellow or red PP instead of converting over to the TC FW-PP. I noticed clutchnet only goes up to a yellow for the TC PP. Not sure how red ranger compares to a yellow TC PP.

Good pt of reference though for the precision PP.

[nagelandy55]

I'm sure they are the same thing, maybe a different bolt pattern.

[Cutlass327]

The older tk trans uses the same clutch. I ended up using the one from my 86 (non-Mazda trans) in my 88 after the Ford reman stuff slipped. Just go to Auto Zone's website and look up the part numbers on your setup and then on the M5OD setup. If the p/n are the same, then you can use it, but I know you can cause I am... lol

[Riddle_Rob]

Just a quick question.

If I swap in the larger turbocoupe flywheel and PP as well as the B3000 clutch disk, will the ranger started fix/work? Or will I have to swap that too?

[fordnut71]

its all the same starter.

[Riddle_Rob]

Perfect. Allllll I wanted to know.

[fordnut71]

good cause thats all im going to tell ya now lol

[Riddle_Rob]

Loud Noises!!!

[Bryan22]

now i've got a question.... so we've established that the pressure plates are different in the cable and hydraulic versions of the t-5. but is the flywheel the same?

[TURBO Ranger]

Yes, I believe so, because a lot of TC owners just swap out the cable stuff for th later hydraulics and keep the flywheel. Hey, Jess, hows the engagement? Really harsh?

[Jesshwarren]

Yes, I believe so, because a lot of TC owners just swap out the cable stuff for th later hydraulics and keep the flywheel. Hey, Jess, hows the engagement? Really harsh?


I am using a 3 puck with the CF dual friction PP. It is not bad takes some getting used to. Sure holds the power.

The 4 puck with the stock T/C PP was a little softer.

[ri06667]

Ive got the 4puck with the stock tc pp and its twice as soft as my stock ranger 2.3 clutch.

[TURBO Ranger]

Hey Jess, thats good news. Are you still using the stock M5OD? Also, do you know if thats the same as the M5OD in my 90?

[pontoonkiller]

do you guys buy the clutch kit for the 88TC and replace the disc with the four puck one. or is there a place where you can get just the pp

[jfive]

So it seams everyone missed the first post put up by jess. I read all the post and got really confused, then i went back to the original post and relized you have to use a 87-88 tbird turbo 2.3 flywheel, and pressure plate, and you use a 3.0 mazada 95-97 clutch disc. no other combinations are gonna be easier than this. don't look for a ranger 3.0 disc cause for some reason you won't find it all though the ranger and mazda are the same. Seams to be affordable solution though to me. Flywheel is 50.00 plus shipping and clutch disc is 89.00 plus shiping and pressure plate is 145.00 plus shipping. Comes out to 284.00 without shipping, or 350.00 probubly at most. but you would have all new parts. I think if I were gonna do this id probubly buy arp flywheel bolts to, just for ease of mind.

[blinkingsun]

That clutchnet disk is probably the best disk you can buy for the money... For even cheaper you can usually get them unsprung. An unsprung disk feels just like a sprung disk at all times except for off the line while just cruising. I used an 80% over pressure plate and an unsprung 6 puck disk in my GTI when it was still a daily driver... held up around 550whp with tons of city driving and racing for about 6 months before I took the car off the road... For reference, I put this clutch in because I twisted the hub out of a spec stage 4.. They are good for nothing but their twin disk setups.

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2170/17/81/510225594/n510225594_5903013_5657.jpg
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[speedaddict]

Mines kevlar. It stops bullet's :wink:

[phoenixfriend84]

I'm glad you guys did all the testing on this first. Saves me the trouble. My only question is of course how reliable is this clutch setup? Of course its going to be subjective based on the amount of abuse you give it at the track but just a general mileage would be good for me.

[fordnut71]

clutch net now has a stock 8 7/8"size pp for the ranger in its red race version.clutch can also be bought in the stock 8 7/8" size.

[silver bullet]

so i have a 96 and im upgrading my clutch for boost,
im gonna get the 4 puck sprung clutch from clutchnet, a centerforce PP but im a little confused about the flywheel, what are my new flywheel options???? thanks for everyones input?

[jfive]

just have your flywheel turned. Napa 20.00. also you can lighten it for more power.

[Cutlass327]

Maybe not really more 'power', but definitely faster revving..

[silver bullet]

so napa will turn the flywheel for me for $20.00??? and they can lighten it as well??

[Foolee]

so napa will turn the flywheel for me for $20.00??? and they can lighten it as well??

Turning removes metal therefore lightening it, the more they turn it they lighter it will be.

[jfive]

At my napa, they have a machine that takes so much off every pass it makes, so all you have to do is talk the guy into making a few extra passes. Bogus know how much you can take off and still be okay, he has is in the how to's I believe, and give those figures to the guy at napa. I know not all napas do it, but if they make hoses and turn rotors, they probubly do flywheels. Cheaper than a machine shop.

[silver bullet]

ok, thanks a lot for everyone's help.
now to track down a napa that does the work, and track down
bogus?? to see how many passes or how much Exactly to take off?

[more_boost]

Hey guys! I have been reading and searching but havent found a resolution for my clutch problem. I have a 98 ranger with the stock 5 speed (m50d). you guys were talking about the new t/c flywheels but mine is from a 84 SVO mustang. what are my clutch options for this flywheel. I might have misunderstood but i thought i read that it wont work with my trans due to my hydraulic throw out bearing not being able to reach.

[TURBO Ranger]

I wouldnt turn it, you dnt need to except for full race, any 2.3 flywheel will work, im a stock 90 flywheel on an 88 engine with a 4 puck and a centerforce pp, no problems yet. Ligntning is good for racing, but if you drive on the streets alot, it isnt, harder to take off, it will idle rougher, and it will be farther out on the pedal travel, it isnt worth it to me