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AJ_Fritz
10-06-2008, 05:05 PM
If you have something you need welded up or fabricated give me a call. TIG and MIG welding. Stainless steel, mild steel and Aluminum.

If you have an internally waste gated turbine housing that you would like converted to external and everything chopped off, cleaned up and a standard size 3 inch V-Band added?! we can do that.

we can do cone reducers welded to turbine housings for a smooth transition from turbine wheel to down pipe. we can do 3 inch V-Band welded to reducers and or turbine housings. guaranteed no cracks! all welding will be TIG. all materials 304 stainless Steel.

Do you need an elbow welded to a aluminum compressor housing or the V-Band moved, removed, or transitioned to slip pipe w/ a bead roll. if its cast aluminum we can weld it.

are you having a problem with charge pipes blowing off?!

we now have a Bead Roller specifically designed for tubing with dies available for 2.5-4 inch. up to 14 gauge in stainless and mild steel. up to 10 gauge in aluminum. yeah, its heavy duty, no wimpy harbor freight crap here!

there is power to be had for exhaust entry and exits. don't let a poor exit ruin a great turbocharger!


A. J. Fritz
Warhorse Headers and Custom Fabrication
3660 Pigeon Run Road S.W.
Massillon OH, 44647
330-880-4223

shop rate:
$50 an hour + materials. mention this site and you get $5 off the shop rate.

Bead rolls are $10 a piece for the first 4 pieces, $8 a piece after that.

304 stainless steel header flanges and t3 turbo flanges in 3/8 inch thick. laser cut, perfectly aligned with the intake ports and bolt holes. set up for an internal weld to 1.25" pipe.

head flanges $80
turbo flanges $30


** Disclaimer **
i do not rebuild turbochargers i modify them!! anything over 2 hours gets you a free hat... must mention this site!!!!

Kurt
10-07-2008, 01:17 PM
Could you post some high rez pictures of your work?

AJ_Fritz
10-08-2008, 11:52 AM
http://rangersrevenge.com/cgi/imagehosting/49248ed615915530.jpg

Bead rolled Stainless Steel 16 gauge 3 inch tubing.
http://www.turborangerforums.com/imagehosting/49249a082be976f5.jpg

a nice little divided external wastegate port on a holset hx35 16cm housing
http://www.turborangerforums.com/imagehosting/49249b70a2111aeb.jpg
http://www.turborangerforums.com/imagehosting/49249b70a20c99ea.jpg

for anything else you may want to look at check out here.

PICTURES (http://www.turborangerforums.com/vbimghost.php?do=viewimages&id=492)

Soul
10-09-2008, 03:08 PM
Purdy!

AJ_Fritz
10-12-2008, 01:35 PM
2 more i just finished up. everything is stainless 304

14 gauge transition. 3"-4" cone 4" long welded to a 16 gauge 3" mandel bent 45* elbow. then welded to a 4" flex pipe. i have no idea what gauge the flex pipe is. its thin geussing 22 or 24.

http://rangersrevenge.com/cgi/imagehosting/49248f232af520a2.jpg

also made the heat shield ;) 16 gauge perfplate, and 16 gauge sheetmetal
http://rangersrevenge.com/cgi/imagehosting/49248f232af8f901.jpg

Skyy_4life
02-13-2009, 11:21 PM
beautiful welds. nice work.

AJ_Fritz
03-10-2009, 09:17 PM
updated. added more eye candy.

Jesshwarren
03-13-2009, 08:23 PM
Not to hijack your thread or nothing :D I ended up putting the WG on the housing myself as I need it ASAP. Wanted you to see this Adam.
Here is the WG setup I am going to run with our new stock location header.

Header
http://www.jcwracing.com/Products/DSC01704.JPG

18cm holset housing.
http://www.turborangerforums.com/imagehosting/149baf5a493af1.jpg
http://www.turborangerforums.com/imagehosting/149baf5a4dbfad.jpg
http://www.turborangerforums.com/imagehosting/149baf5a4bb175.jpg

nagelandy55
03-13-2009, 10:21 PM
Wow thats absolute porn right there!

radrangerXLT
03-13-2009, 10:29 PM
:drool5:

AJ_Fritz
03-15-2009, 12:24 PM
is that the hx40 housing? looks good, i think the port holes might be a little bit small, but if it doesnt boost creep on you they are just the right size. i like to get as much area used as possible when using the 38mm wastegates. they are on the small side already. you wont have a problem with boost creep till you start making 400 hp, then it might try to strech its legs on you.

speedaddict
03-27-2010, 08:08 PM
Aj, i'm running a e6 now, and right now using my to4e and 38mm tial wg.

I want to run my Hx35 and Tial 38mm wg on the e6.

How much would you charge?

AJ_Fritz
03-27-2010, 11:47 PM
you want the wastegate mounted on the turbine housing? maybe $50

what housing do you have and which way you want it mounted?

speedaddict
03-28-2010, 12:04 PM
Yeah with the wastegate flange on the turbine housing, also the flapper welded shut.

Uhh, idk what housing it is. All i know is its a Hx35w?

And as far as mounting goes, i'm hooking everything up now on the e6, i'll put the holset on there and mark about where she needs to be with paint,soapstone, something.

jfive
03-28-2010, 07:29 PM
Probubly 12cm like mine. I may want this done too. Since i have such cold weather, I am thinking of using a bob header now. If so i would need a way to do an external wastegate. Jess, that looks perfect. I think whats more important is that you get into both sides. Those holes look like 1" each. Should be golden.

AJ_Fritz
03-29-2010, 05:04 PM
jess's look like 3/4 holes which should be fine.

i use 1 inch on both sides and maintain the divider all the way to the wastegate valve so there is no cross flow between the two sides. just in case you later use a paired header. ;)

i just thought if you had a 16 housing i could just trade you. ive got a 16 housing sitting here with a standard summit racing 3 inch V-Band and the waste gate mod on it. id let it go for 100 but i have to have a good core. the 16 housings are usually not internally gated. they are common on Holset H1C's.

the 12's require a little more work. i like to chop all the bolt mount stuff off and the internal waste and weld a small cone on the turbine exit and then weld the down pipe V-band directy to the housing. its cleaner, flows better and fits nicer. then you dont have to deal with exhaust leaks at the gasket surface for the cover plate. $150 would get you that and i would supply the 3inch V-band. i make the cones out of schedual 40 3" pipe. $50 to chop it off, $50 for the V-Band, and $50 to make the cone and weld it on. another $50 gets you the wastegate mod.

ive got to do gary's up here pretty soon. i'll get some pics up when i do it.

i'll work with you if you cut all the stuff off and supply the V-Band i'll knock a $100 off lol.

AJ_Fritz
03-29-2010, 05:09 PM
http://rangersrevenge.com/cgi/imagehosting/49248f232af520a2.jpg

this housing used to look just like yours.

speedaddict
03-29-2010, 09:34 PM
Dang. wish i had the 16cm housing lol.

Umm yeah, just the wastegate mod and plug the flapper hole. I'll cut the little flapper off thats easy. Don't really need the V-band. The 5-bolt flange an all is alright for right now. Just basic for the time being. I dont wanna go all out until i get the hx40. Then you can work your magic;) Its currently bathing in wd-40 so i can get the housing off tomorrow.

You want me to mail you just the turbine housing and all, and what about payment? how do you wanna do that?

DangerRanger01
03-29-2010, 10:18 PM
Its currently bathing in wd-40 so i can get the housing off tomorrow.


You might also need lots of heat to get it off. I've had lots of problems getting turbine housings off...but you might get lucky.

jfive
03-29-2010, 10:22 PM
PB is better than WD 40 also.

speedaddict
03-29-2010, 10:23 PM
Took me 3.5 hours to get my To4e apart today, and Charlie @ evergreen built it like 4 months ago.

I'm scared of the Holset:(

AJ_Fritz
03-29-2010, 10:54 PM
copper anti-seize is your friend use it when it goes back together. i broke my first turbo 3 days ago taking it apart. was a stock T3 of a turbo coupe. chipped a peice off the center section. guess i get to do a little cast welding lol. they can be a real PITD.

actually all the hosets ive taken apart usually go pretty easy lol. its the garretts that suck.

however you like speed. if you want you could send your center mount header and i could take a shot at fixing it for you. might not take much?!

speedaddict
03-29-2010, 11:02 PM
I chopped the centermount up today. And the crack is completly around the first runner and halfway on the second. Couldnt tell until i pulled it off. I think mine was a dud..

I needed the 38mm WG flange off it so i could finish my wastegate port on the back of my garrett. I'll post some pics tommorrow. I think you might like it :hehe:

And when i get the turbine housing off the holset it will be in the mail to ya. Hopefully tomorrow if all goes well!!

jfive
03-29-2010, 11:59 PM
they can be a real PITD.



Sounds like you may need to see the health clinic. LOL

speedaddict
05-01-2010, 11:35 AM
AJ, I haven't forgot yet. I'm still gonna send you the holset housing.

I've been busy and tied up atm, But i'm gonna stop and make time.

If i send a 3" v-band with it, how much for the reducer and ext. wg port?

AJ_Fritz
05-01-2010, 08:22 PM
150 should do it if you want it to look like a non waste gated housing. knock it off flush with where the old flapper door seat is at and put the divided external wastegate on it.

speedaddict
05-02-2010, 12:34 AM
Sweet, thats the game plan then :thumbsup:

speedaddict
06-27-2010, 06:18 PM
Aj can i send you the whole turbo and you do what we talked about?

The reducer with 3" v-band and Wg port? Get back asap, I want to mail it this week sometime

AJ_Fritz
06-28-2010, 07:15 AM
sure send it out.

speedaddict
06-30-2010, 06:07 PM
Alright, it'll be in the mail tomorrow then :thumbsup:

speedaddict
03-17-2011, 04:50 PM
AJ, you'd be proud. I ended up putting the external wg on my exhaust housing myself. Since I had spares I figured what the heck. I milled a spot down, then drilled 2 3/4 holes in it, and then ported the rest to about 1". Built a 38mm wg flange and some pipe, and welded it on with some nickel rods. Came out super nice, just don't know how its gonna work.

I got the exhaust flange with the bolt in it holding the flapper shut with a 3" v-band. Im hoping it turns out alright. I was gonna build a bridge between the wg hole and turbine and drill a hole iin exhaust flange and put the wg on there just like my garrett.

Ill post some pics up later and let you see.

speedaddict
03-18-2011, 09:22 PM
Here it is before i welded it. I'll go to the shop tomorrow and take some finished pictures and post.

What ya think???:moon::rockwoot:

jfive
03-18-2011, 10:53 PM
Looks good, but remember, you can't do a pulse paired header with this I believe. Suppose to have individual wastegates. Not 100% on that though.

speedaddict
03-18-2011, 10:58 PM
Dang that would suck. My new 42mm tial is gonna be on there. And im gonna be running a gasket matched ported E6.

jfive
03-18-2011, 11:10 PM
Well if your going E6 than it won't matter, but if you decide to build or have a paired header built, get an extra housing. Just food for thought. If you need an extra E6 let me know, I have one for 50.00 shipped with all 4 studs intact and no cracks.

speedaddict
03-19-2011, 07:51 AM
Lol I got 3 already. I figured aj would chime in and tell me a lil about it too. Jess did one as well, and those 2 pics is what I went by.

muddpawz
03-19-2011, 09:32 AM
What's your goal in using it in that location? No other option with that manifold than an internal wg?

Ron83ranger
03-19-2011, 10:29 AM
i have a single wastegate(turbonetics deltagate) on my paired header and it works pretty well. i just ran 2 tubes to the wastegate and merged them together right before the valve on the gate. im pretty sure the mani. still works as a twin scroll by how much faster the turbo spools up from using an ATR header. it is prob better to have 2 gates but i get rock solid boost control this way also.

Ron83ranger
03-19-2011, 10:32 AM
speed, did u mean you have a couple HX35 ex. housings? if so would you want to sell one. the one i have was ported out quite a bit before i got it, it was on a 5.0 mustang.

Cutlass327
03-19-2011, 02:34 PM
put a divider in the middle of that tube and machine it flush to the WG flange. Then the WG will seal it off until it is opened, but then you already have the benefits of the paired system to get it up and going. Maybe have it down just a little, giving room for expansion of the metals...

AJ_Fritz
03-19-2011, 08:14 PM
you want a divider as close as you can get it to the plunger on the external gate. you will notice and even further drop in spool the closer you get. this is only for a paired header though.

looks great speed. if you got a plasma cutter hack off the housing for the internal gate, weld the hole shut and weld a 3in v-band to it.

speedaddict
03-20-2011, 12:50 AM
Thanks aj. Seein all your work, that means alot, maybe one day ill have mad skills like you!!

For right now the 5 bolt flange will work until I get brave. I have extra exhaust housings I might one of them up haha

jfive
03-20-2011, 12:55 AM
did you notice rod wanted to see if you would sell him a hx35 housing?

speedaddict
03-21-2011, 08:22 AM
No I didn't. Ill go look

Ron83ranger
03-21-2011, 10:38 AM
yeah ive been looking for one since i bought mine. its works but its just been ported quite a bit on the entrance. the divider is still there but its been thinned out almost to a knife edge. i just want one that hasnt.

Skyy_4life
03-21-2011, 10:39 AM
AJ, how much would you charge me to make a 5 bolts exhaust flange for a 2 1/2in exhaust. i dont wanna change my exhaust cuz im changing turbos.

i found one on ebay, but he wants $50 for it.
i need to remove the 5 bolt wastegate cover from the back of my hx35, now i need a 5 bolts flange for 2 1/2in downpipe.

speedaddict
03-21-2011, 11:49 PM
You need a hx35w or hx35? I don't have any internal wg's anymore. I do have a sweet hx40w:)

jfive
03-21-2011, 11:58 PM
He needs a HX35 housing. He has an external gate.

Cutlass327
03-22-2011, 12:34 AM
2.5" exhaust on a Holset? Why not just a T3 instead? I've experienced the difference of going from a 2.5 to 3.0 on a T3, and I really feel you will be holding that Holset back with less than 3".

Ron83ranger
03-22-2011, 08:34 AM
i have the HX35w housing but the flapper was tacked shut. it has the 5 bolt outlet flange. if you dont have one thats fine. ive been running this one for over a year and a half and i just wanted to see if i was losing spool up from it being ported so much and messing up the flow out of the header.i would go a little bigger if it wasnt driven to and from work everyday.